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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. hundreds of high school students have marched in the state capital to demand stricter gun controls. that is in florida. we are advocating for a change because of this capital's failure to doa because of this capital's failure to do a primaryjob by keeping us safe. some of these theatres too soon to talk about gun control. no, it is not too soon. there is no better time than now to talk about gun control. the death toll in eastern ghouta in syria is since is now over 300 since sunday. the un is calling it hell on earth. we will talk to the bbc‘sjeremy bowen atlanta. there are problems that face us tonight that will never be sold. —— solved. billy graham, the most influential preacher of the 20th century, has died. martin this year will look at his legacy. we'll be taking a trip down the river nile in 360 degrees.
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it's a first for the bbc news — a virtual reality documentary. we will hear from the correspondent on this, allister whitehead. —— alastair leithead. we will begin in florida looking at theissue we will begin in florida looking at the issue of gun control. let's start with these pictures of survivors of last week's school shooting in florida marching on the state capital, tallahassee. they want action. if we had stricter gun control is we would not have lost 17 lives of our classmates, teachers and staff members. we would not have destroyed the innocence of 3000 high school stu d e nts the innocence of 3000 high school students and damaged a whole community. if we had stricter gun—control measures in florida, 17 families would be having dinner tonight together instead of mourning the loss of their loved ones.
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cheering 0n the podium was the sign "never again". that's the name this movement has taken on. it's being driven by students. and it's going well beyond florida. some of them are using the hashtag never again, others a hashtag me next. these are some of the key picture that tell the story. students are walking out of classrooms across florida. they're trying to pressure lawmakers to act. there is not too much evidence the pressure is telling at the moment. this is washington, dc. hundreds of students from the district of columbia, maryland and virginia staged walk—outs, gathering in washington. these are students in a kentucky high school walking out to show support for families and victims. a little bit earlier i spoke to barbara plett usher of the bbc. she is in tallahassee and was joined by some students. you saw that rally outside the
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capitol building, lots of speeches and noise outside but lots of work being done inside the buildings, where the students were meeting legislators. i have two with me, dmitri and isabel. they have been speaking to democratic and republican legislators about what they want. dmitri, what did you achieve? as you said we spoke to democratic and republican legislators, i think we were really able to show them what we went to an side of the school when the events transpired, we were able to tell them the kind of things we wanted to see in terms of gun reform and mental care reform. isabel, did you have anything you could work with? before you came the lawmakers voted against a before you came the lawmakers voted againsta ban before you came the lawmakers voted against a ban on assault weapons, can it still be achieved?” against a ban on assault weapons, can it still be achieved? i think out can it still be achieved? i think our talks went very well. i think we came toa our talks went very well. i think we came to a lot of common—sense gun reform together and i have hope for the future. what sort of steps do you think will happen next?|j
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you think will happen next?” definitely think there will be other groups of kids from our school and others coming to tallahassee and using their voices to make sure imminent change happens, to make sure this type of tragedy does not happen again in a florida school. then we have a march that of the march 2a, the march for our lives in washington, dc, taking us on a national platform to make sure the voices of students across the country are heard and that this sort of event does not happen anywhere else in the country. isabel, you were speaking about tactical steps, what you think those would be? we have been talking about increasing the waiting period between buying a gun at receiving it, increasing the age to get a gun. right now it is 21 for a hand that only 18 for a long gun, we want to increase them both to 21. we talked about the waiting period, it is only
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three handgun and on the day for a longer, we were talking about also increasing web to three days and hopefully longer, eventually. this isa hopefully longer, eventually. this is a lot of work, do you have staying power to keep up the issue? what a lot of people have come to realise is that we are passionate about this type of change and we are serious. even if the media goes away we will still be here, persevering to make sure change happens. this is not about the media coverage, this is about the lives lost, feeling safe in schools, security, our lives. it is life and death. how do you feel about going back to school on tuesday? excited and happy to see my friends and be back together in one place. anxious for everyone because i'd want anyone to feel uncomfortable or unsafe, but i think they will get through it together as a community and all of our teachers have been supportive. how about you, anxious and nervous, i had a class with one of the victims and it will
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be hard to have an empty desk. but until we rebuild our own memories and happy experiences at that school, that is when the real healing will begin with all of our friends, teachers, administrators and everyone who went through that experience, we will bond as a family get through this together. thank you, and isabel. they have been speaking about their experience and save that has given them some impact at the capitol. we will be watching them under the students in the next month to see whether this movement is real change in the —— we will be watching them and other students. now, there's nothing news in calls for more gun control — it happens after every mass shooting in the us. and they happen very frequently. but these students have been particularly effective at getting their message out. and they're putting a lot of pressure on the president. he's been tweeting. "whether we are republican or democrat, we must now focus on strengthening background checks!" that comes on the back of this announcement.
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i signed a memorandum directing the attorney general to propose regulations to ban all devices that turn legal weapons into machine guns. i expect that these critical regulations will be finalised very $0011. these are the types of devices he is referring to — bump stocks. they make ordinary weapons fire as if they were machine guns. one was used in the las vegas attack last year. then, as in florida last week this weapon was used — an ar—15. it's a semi—automatic gun — and you can buy one in the us once you're 18. so long as you pass certain checks. that's what the alleged shooter last week did. now that age limited is also being looked at. here's the white house press spokesperson. reporter: the president believed there should be an age limit for the
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people who buy and ar—15.” there should be an age limit for the people who buy and ar-15. i know there are currently laws in place in certain states that restrict that in terms of whether or not we make that federal policy, it has not yet been determined, but that is... i think it is on the table for us to discuss. president trump is due to host a "listening session" with high school students and teachers at the white house in the next hour. and also holding an event with gun—control campaigners, including vice president mike pence and betsy divorced from the education department. we will show you pictures of that when it comes on. billy graham has died. he was one of the big figures of twentieth century christianity. he began preaching in a tent in california but soon took his mission overseas — often in huge arenas such as this one in london. these sermons in the 19505 drew tens of thousands of people. he was the first preacher to maximise the power of television and became a confidant to a number
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of presidents — kennedy, george bush, bill clinton. and president obama and nixon. here he is in full flow. we area we are a decent people, we are good people. the bible says that the whole human race is simple. the bible says that all of us have sinned. i have broken the commandments of god. so have you, and the bible says the wages of sin is death. the bible says the soul of the spiritual die. and the bible says we are all guilty. that was said by the reverend jesse
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jackson. i have spoken to our religious affairs editor martin bush era about him. i did think there will ever be a preacher with that kind of reach ever again. he evidently created a new form of christianity which has found deep roots in many parts of the world? i don't think so. this message was very simple, based on the new testament. when he's preached, it did not matter if he was preaching in zimbabwe, nigeria, london, northern ireland, his message was that god created us, we have fallen away from our creator and in order to get back to him we need a relationship with him that is only possible through the death of christ on the cross. he preached that message simply wherever he went. it was much is the simplicity of the message, it was the sincerity
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of the message, it was the sincerity of his life. many us breaches of high status with big crowds, television networks, have had terrible faults from grace. billy graham was not involved in a single financial or sexual scandal. i think thatis financial or sexual scandal. i think that is why the outpouring of grief today has been so widespread and international, people feel he was not a hypocrite and his message was consistent, his life was also consistent. that's interesting, the strength of his personality and style gave birth toa his personality and style gave birth to a type of evangelical christianity that some people have said is too rooted in money, personality and has little to do with the core message of christianity. it is interesting you talk about money. billy graham's accou nts talk about money. billy graham's accounts were both transparent and a lwa ys accounts were both transparent and always audited externally every year, intentionally, because he was aware of the possibility. in the 19805 two of the biggest newspapers
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in america dug into his finances to see if there was any impropriety. they could not find any. they made it public, they said we have searched through his bins, there was nothing to find. multiple individuals have followed him who have not been as honest and had his level of integrity and have gone on to exploit people financially. you will see things on american television where someone says tenders $10 and we will send you a prior cloth. billy graham never did that. they say give to us and god will bless you, he never said that. the only message he preached was about you finding salvation in relation to god. it was never about any material benefit that him or his organisation could gain. martin bashir talking about billy graham. as we have dinner every day this week, we must turn to the horror is playing out in eastern ghouta in syria. —— as we have done every day
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this week. it's a rebel enclave close to damascus — and since sunday 300 people have died. around 400,000 live in eastern ghouta. they are trapped there is this plays out. the un secretary general has described the situation as hell on earth. here's one doctor there. you cannot imagine the situation in eastern ghouta now. many injured people, civilian people. we can't treat all of them. maybe you can hear the voice of the air strike 110w. hear the voice of the air strike now. in every minute we have more than three or four air strikes, cluster bombs, artillery. it is a situation, it is like a catastrophe in eastern ghouta. you can't imagine that. you could hear bombing in the background on that clip. this is footage of the bombardment.
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this is a brutal onslaught. a massacre. civilians can't get out. nor can they get supplies. medicalfacilities have also been destroyed in recent days, so the injured have no guarantee of being treated. some say these medical facilities have been targeted. these siege tactics are nothing new — the syrian government and their allies did just the same in aleppo. there, in the end, humanitarian corridors were created. we wait to see if that will happen in eastern ghouta. lina sinjab has more from beirut. 13 medicalfacilities 13 medical facilities have 13 medicalfacilities have been targeted. schools, bakeries, food tricks, main roads and even ambulances. rescue workers are not able to help, they are running out of medical equipment and themselves
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being targeted. people inside eastern ghouta described the situation as hell. there were mortars falling into damascus. the government and russia are determined to clear the area from what they describe as terrorists, but eastern ghouta has been besieged forfive years and completely sealed off for 50 days. unicef has issued a statement saying they are running out of words to describe the situation, and the un special envoy said to might be seeing another aleppo scenario. aleppo was also bombed out and seized until the moment where both rebels and civilians gave up and were bussed out of their own hometown towards idlib in the north, where it is also being bombarded. for the people in eastern ghouta, they have been living the walk the seven years, they are tired of the bombing, the procedure meant, they want safety and beginning to end. —— they have been living the wall for seven yea rs. been living the wall for seven years. they might not want to head
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from their home town to another dangerous area. in around 15 minutes we will hear from jeremy bowen, talking about the situation in eastern ghouta. and we are waiting on donald trump who is expected to make an appearance soon. he has been listening to teachers and campaigners who want to talk to him about gun control. and in a few minutes we will hear about the possible dangers that come with artificial intelligence. we are told some could manifest themselves within five years. two victims of the six attackerjohn warboys, known as the black cab rapist, have won a landmark legal case against the metropolitan police. they say their treatment by police breached their rights and cause them harm. clive coleman explains the importance of the decision. the really significant aspect of the ruling is that this is
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aspect of the ruling is that this is a novel route, using the human rights act, whereby victims of serious violent crime can help the police to account, they can take them to court and win compensation. this is one big legal battle byjohn warboys' victims which is over successfully. they face another significant battle because the two women at the centre of this case are also the women who are questioning the decision of the parole board to release john warboys. stay with us on outside source. our lead story is hundreds of high school students have marched in florida to demand stricter gun controls, saying the rights of children must come before the right to a gun. we can turn to some of the main stories from bbc world service, this
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from bbc urdu. pakistan's supreme court has ruled that former prime minister nawaz sharif can no longer lead the political party he founded. mr sharif is accused of corruption. he says he's the victim of a political conspiracy. the first missing french soldier from the first world war to have been identified using his dna has been buried with full military honours. claude fournier was laid to rest alongside two comrades. still no sign of donald trump coming out, still in the meantime will turn to ta ke out, still in the meantime will turn to take dummett a story he will pay close attention to. —— we will turn toa close attention to. —— we will turn to a story he will pay close attention to. details of the trans—pacific trade deal — or tpp — were released on wednesday. and it looks like the landmark deal is a step closer to becoming a reality — despite the fact that the us is no longer involved. the 11 remaining countries — led byjapan — unveiled details of the pact, which no longer includes rules that washington was pushing for. yogita limaye is in new york. in the simplest possible terms, what
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to these 11 countries want to do? essentially to create a huge trading block, and together they would account for 13% of global gdp. they we re account for 13% of global gdp. they were hoping the us would have been pa rt were hoping the us would have been part of it because with the us that sort of combined effect would have been as much as 40% of global gdp. currently if you take the 11 countries it reaches around 500 million people, with the us it would have been around 800 million. having said that, one of the first things president trump did when he came into office was to back out of the deal, these 11 countries think they still want to go ahead, they wa nt to they still want to go ahead, they want to create a huge trading block and reduce trade barriers between them. some of the country such as canada, mexico, australia, new zealand, japan especially taking quite a lead role. how much are they had to go back to the drawing board
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after america pulled out and how much is this a continuation of the original plan? the new draft released has some changes, about 22. i'm sorry, i have asked you a question but i will interrupt you because donald trump hasjust appeared. we will immediately look at this live feed and we will listen to what we can hear the president say. we understand he will miss campaigners connected to the sandy hook tragedy of several years ago, when a number of children were shot deadin when a number of children were shot dead in one school. we do not know what the president will say with regards to the issues the campaigners want to talk about, we know that vice president mike pence will be in attendance. i wonder if
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we can see him back? and we also know that one of the most senior figures in education in the us, betsy devoss, is there. thank you viewer suggestions, i have heard some of them. we need to do something about this horrible situation going on. i want to listen, and then after ellis and i will get things done. i thought that if the pasta could possibly say the prayer, it would be appreciated. —— i thought if the pastor could. we thank you for the date you have given us. we will get america by contract there needs to be with our children, our adults, everybody involved. father, iask children, our adults, everybody involved. father, i ask you to
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extend the holy spirit to computers to this time. you said you would send it, right now we embrace it. he says where two or three are gathered in my name you are here. we ask you to comfort the families, every one of them. even the families that did not lose a loved one but know they we re not lose a loved one but know they were there at that time, comfort them. fathers, iask were there at that time, comfort them. fathers, i ask in the name of jesus christ, we welcome you here in this room. amen. i appreciate that. thank you. vice president, you wanted to say, and i would like you to say a few words. and then i would like to recognise you to betsy devos, who some of you know. —— then i would like to introduce you to. (inaudible)
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our deepest condolences and sympathy is from the first family and our family and of the american people. as the president said last week, the american people are united in one heart, a broken heart, for what took place. the president called this meeting for us as much to talk about what's happened in our country over the last 20 years and to find out from all of you gathered here, by listening, by learning, how we might ensure that this is the last time this ever happens. i, along with the president, and deeply moved by the stories of heroism and courage and candidly moved by the courage that it takes for many of you to be here
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today. what i just it takes for many of you to be here today. what ijust want to encourage you to do is tell us your stories. america is looking on. your president, our entire administration, leaders around the country at every level are looking on. we want to hear your hearts together. i encourage you to be counted and vulnerable, share with us counted and vulnerable, share with us not only your personal experience but what it is you would have us to do. and just know that, as the president has already taken action, he will be meeting in this very room in the coming days with governors from all 50 states to make school safety the top priority of this administration across this country. the president and i wanted to hear from you all first, and so i want to say thank you for coming, thank you for the courage and being able to be here and share your hearts and from
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out here and share your hearts and from our families to yours, god bless and comfort you. thank you, mike, very much. thank you, mr president. students, teachers, parents, thank you. many of you have lived do something unthinkable. for many of you, it is raw and fresh. i admire your strength in coming to share your strength in coming to share your experience with the president, the vice president and the world. no student, parent or teacher should never have to ensure what you will have. my heart is broken. what happened last week shocked us, it angers us, it pains us. we are here to have an earnest conversation about why this tragedy and too many others before it happens, and how we can work to find solutions. we are here to listen, to gain your important perspective on ways to
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reduce violence and protect students. our hope is that by talking and listening we can make something that was unthinkably bad something that was unthinkably bad something good. and your loss and george trauma must never be in vain. — your george trauma must never be in vain. —— your loss and your trauma. thank you again for being here, let's get started. thank you very much, betsy. ijust want started. thank you very much, betsy. i just want to say before we begin that we will be very strong on background checks, very strong emphasis on the mental health of somebody. we will do plenty of other things. again, next week the governors are coming in from most of the states and we will have a very serious talk about what is going on with school safety, very important. there are many ideas i have, many ideas others have, we will pick out
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the strongest and most important ideas, the ideas that will work, we will get them done. it will not be talk like in the past. it has been going on too long, too many insta nces. going on too long, too many instances. we will get it done. i wa nt to instances. we will get it done. i want to thank you all from toe for being here. iwould want to thank you all from toe for being here. i would like to year your story, and if you have any suggestions in the future based on this horrible experience you have gone through, i would love to have those. how about you? thank you, mr president, for having me here. my name isjulie, i thank you, mr president, for having me here. my name isjulie, lam from stoneman douglas high school, i was there chewing the shooting and i am a survivor. i want you guys all to emphasise the point that i survived. i was lucky enough to come home from school, unlike some of my other classmates and teachers. it is very
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scary. and knowing that a lot of people do not have this opportunity to be here still is mind blowing. i am just... to be here still is mind blowing. i amjust... i to be here still is mind blowing. i am just... i feel like there is a lot to do, and i really appreciate you hosting me and what you are saying, i you hosting me and what you are saying, lam you hosting me and what you are saying, i am confident you will do the right thing and i appreciate you looking at the pump stocks yesterday. that means it is definitely a step in the right direction, i think we can agree on that. —— iappreciate direction, i think we can agree on that. —— i appreciate you looking at the bump stocks. i am grateful to be here and we can work out something, maybe compromise on some solution so no person in this world will ever have to go through something so horrific and tragic. my thoughts and prayers are out to everyone, so thank you. my name is jonathan, i go to stoneman douglas and i was
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actually in the second classroom that was shot at. in my mind, as a kid, nothing about horrible should ever have to happen to you. you can't even think about it. it doesn't even seem real still. everything seems fake. i can't even... i don't even know what's going on, it isjust crazy, everything happening. it isjust so tragic. thank you for everything. you have done a greatjob and i like the direction going in. thank you. my the direction going in. thank you. my name is melissa, is my son. i could not get in touch with my son because i am a teacher at a middle school that was locked down. i could not find out if my son was alive or not. i feel for all of these
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families. my heart is just broken for my whole community. we are coming together. i feel for all the families who have lost, and ifeel for the ones that are here, because we now have almost a guilt. why not my child? which i feel bad saying. i am happy that he is here with me but i feel so bad am happy that he is here with me but ifeel so bad for all of am happy that he is here with me but i feel so bad for all of you who have lost so many. and i am just begging for a change. we need a change. do you mind? may i passed the microphone back to my daughter, because i think she has some nice solutions, if that's ok with you? shore. my name is carson, i am a
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junior, and i was at marjorie stoneman douglas at the time of the shooting. i know there are a lot of different solutions we can go to to help eradicate this issue, but one that stuck out to me was about all the drills and protocols that my teachers had to go through. they knew what to do once the code red foran knew what to do once the code red for an active shooter was announced, but through research i found that only 32 states require drills. but of those 32 states, more than half of those 32 states, more than half of the counties do not go through the drills because they want to spend their resources towards something else. and i know that a bill was also passed that declared that each school has to go one drill each month, but i know that my school, we one drill each month, but i know e ii
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year. and i think a change that will increase all the trainings and protocols so if, god forbid, another shooting does happen, at least all the teachers will be prepared and can hopefully keep their students calm. thank you very _ name can hopefully keep their students calm. thank you just - name can hopefully keep their students calm. thank you just g to i name“ can hopefully keep their students calm. thank you just g to say ame‘ is ariana climb, ijust want to say g you is ariana climb, ijust want to say .; you this is ariana climb, ijust want to say -- you this country, a 5 a jg: leader's"? "h a jg: leaderf'" i "t' —:,4 33 e 573331 iii‘féjii 3251 the
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